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Today’s question here on Achtung Panzercow comes from…well, me.  More exactly, it’s something I’ve wondered about for years now, and some things I’ve seen since restarting the leveling grind for my characters on Feathermoon have brought it back to the front of my mind.  The question is this:

Why would you roll on a roleplaying server if you have no intention at all of roleplaying?

I don’t mean for this question to be as accusatory or “get off my server” as it sounds at first listen.  It is a genuine, sincere question that I have yet to be able to figure out an answer to.  Let me give you a little background.

When I first rolled on Feathermoon back in March of 2005, roleplay was everywhere. It was the default mode of action, in fact.  Yes, Barrens chat was still Barrens chat sometimes, but there were also people who actually talked on /1 in character. Even in the Barrens!  If you ran across someone out and about, you had about a 50/50 chance of them actively being in character and being willing to RP with you.  The Feathermoon realm forum on the WoW website was slap full of in-character stories and interactions.  In response to the first people seen laughing at roleplayers, in fact, much of the Feathermoon RP community mobilized a large cross-faction “RP pride march” down across Stranglethorn Vale, with over 100 characters participating.  It was meant to be a show to the RP griefers…something that said “this is our server and our rules, you are not welcome here if you continue to disrupt us.”  It was an expectation that if you were playing on Feathermoon, you were a roleplayer, and if you weren’t, you respected those who did, were not disruptive, and would try it yourself at some point.  If you rolled a character with a stupid non-RP name like “Chuknorriz” or “Baconbitz” or “Hurrpdurrp,” you’d get reported.

Over the years, for whatever reason, Feathermoon–and almost every other RP server in World of Warcraft–has slowly evolved from a place where in-character is the default mode of interaction, to a place where roleplay exists in here-and-there pockets surrounded by a vast ocean of players who are, at best, indifferent to RP and at worst actively trying to thwart it.  Roleplay takes a back seat to raiding.  (Don’t get me wrong, I love to raid too.  But you can raid successfully and be a roleplayer, we prove that on Feathermoon all the time.)  The realm forums descend into raid advertisements and non-RP out-of-character drama threads.  Trade chat is no better than trade chat on any other PvE or PvP server.  Most likely, speaking to a random someone in /say in-character gets either a blank stare or “lol wut.”  And I’ve lost count of the number of times that in-character gatherings such as guild meetings or weddings or funerals or whatever have been griefed by idiots.  You know, the kind of people who run around and dance naked on tables, or spam things to cause noise or graphics disruption, or spam /say or /yell with nonsense, or just run around saying “lol u rp nurdz suk.”  And these aren’t usually level 1 “hey, my server’s down, I’ll go fuck with the RPers on Feathermoon” alts.  They’re high level characters, with good gear…clearly a significant time investment.

Why? Why would people come to a server and not participate in that server’s ruleset?  If I decided to level a character to 85 on a PvP server, I’d PvP.  I wouldn’t whine about it when I got ganked, I’d learn and I’d get better and I’d participate in what the server is “about,” which is PvP in addition to everything else.  So why would someone roll on, and spend significant time on, an RP server if they aren’t even curious about roleplay?

Please note that I’m not talking about the “RP-curious” or inexperienced roleplayer here.  If you’ve never done it before and want to just watch and learn more about it, that’s fine.  I don’t know any roleplayers on Feathermoon, for example, who have an issue with non-roleplayers being on the server…as long as they’re not disruptive to roleplay.  I would take it a half-step further…my opinion is that if you are on an RP server, even if you don’t roleplay actively, you should be willing to try it. Why not?  You created the toon on a server that clearly had “(RP)” behind the name.  That’s the only thing that sets RP servers apart from the dozens and dozens of other PvE servers.  Try it, you might like it!  There are many excellent resources for beginning roleplayers…the two standbys that I always recommend are my fellow Feathermoonies over at WTT:RP, and the lovely and talented Anna at Too Many Annas.

I’m not going to get into what I think the reasons are why our RP servers have slowly degenerated over the years (I have a few opinions, but I’m saving them for later).  I’m just looking for insight into why non-roleplayers–more precisely, people who have no interest in roleplaying and/or those that think RPers are “weird”–would come to a roleplay server and make a home there.  Please, edumacate me, Gentle Readers.  I are but a humble Panzercow who has taken one too many hits to the head.

42 responses

  1. Perhaps for the same reason I’m on a PvP server. I hate PvP and don’t participate (though I don’t GREIF it, if such a thing were even possible) but my freinds were there…and so am I.

    December 29, 2010 at 15:48

    • I think that’s one of the biggest reasons, yeah. I started on a PvP server (Gorgonnash) because that’s where my friends were, but got out when I realized the server lifestyle wasn’t for me. And RP servers are attractive in that we tend (IMO) to have a slightly more mature and less douchebaggy playerbase.

      December 29, 2010 at 15:50

      • relysh

        yep – i’m on an RP server because my friends were there. and your assessment of: “And RP servers are attractive in that we tend (IMO) to have a slightly more mature and less douchebaggy playerbase.” is why we stay.

        My friends rolled on AD at launch and have just never moved. I’m pretty sure the server list was slim pickins back then 😛

        We don’t RP, but we also dont bother the RP playerbase. i report bad names, and generally stay quiet. it’s worth it to not be surrounded by people with “lol” in their name somewhere.

        December 29, 2010 at 15:58

  2. The explanation I actually get quite a bit is that they wanted to play with their friends and that’s where their friends were. Admittedly, the folks in that camp are generally respectful of RP server rules even if they have no intention of roleplaying themselves. At least their names on average tend to be kosher with RP server naming conventions, and, really, as long as they don’t grief us, I have no problem with them.

    My server, on the other hand, tends to have a low or medium population. Some people might just see that and go “oh, low pop! I’ll go there!” and don’t even notice the RP flag beside the server name. People can be selectively blind, unfortunately.

    As for the others, well… I don’t really have an explanation for them. They baffle me, too.

    December 29, 2010 at 15:49

    • If somebody isn’t a roleplayer but is still respectful of the RP culture on the server, I don’t know anybody who would have a problem with that. It’s a “live and let live” sort of thing. I’d be curious as to why they rolled there, but it’s not like I’m on some “non-RPer begone” kick. Now in the past, I have known a very few roleplayers who do think that way, and they’re the types who give the rest of us a bad name and run people off from trying to RP.

      I hadn’t thought about populations, mainly because Feathermoon is one of the most crowded RP servers. I know Moon Guard is #1 most populated RP server (or was a few months back), but FM is right up there with the other old-line RP servers like Argent Dawn, Cenarion Circle, etc.

      December 29, 2010 at 15:56

    • Donovitch

      well personally when my guild was looking for a new server I suggested the rp one- because rpers usually tend to actually put some thought into the game and I for one thank them for that. But mostly because I love the lore and despite not being actively interested in participating I would love to watch even if from a distance.

      January 12, 2011 at 19:49

  3. Tamlane

    I’ve rolled a couple characters on an RP server because one of my good friends seems to stick to that one server, and I’d like to be able play with her. As for myself, I have no interest in WoW as an RP platform, so I just try to stay out of the way while I do my thing…

    December 29, 2010 at 15:55

  4. I did not come to Feathermoon to RP. Shocking as that may sound. I came because a friend I knew asked me to come play on her server.

    I knew it was an RP server and I was prepared to RP in groups that wanted to, but I did not come here to RP.

    I have to say, Lin, that the Feathermoon you talk about is not the Feathermoon that I remember. Barrens chat was horrible (though there was some troll RP in General when I rolled my first troll, but it was griefed as much as enjoyed.

    I remember RPing with random people and getting the “lol RP.”

    Now, I did not think RPers were weird, but I was very leary about RPing in an MMO. In the end, I got involved because I was cajoled and I was glad I did.

    Even now, I will act in character no matter where I am. More often than not, it will get ignored, but I still enjoy it. Even if it is only Keltyr that reacts when Dorri snarls.

    December 29, 2010 at 16:01

  5. Zane/Channi

    Argent Dawn was my first server, and although the RP was great for a while, when BC hit, it became few and far between… (Goldshire and half vampire/half dragon/half gargoyle type RP don’t count!)

    I came to Feathermoon because my wife found some friends here and it’s just been like a breath of fresh air!

    One time recently (just before cata was released), I was levelling my rogue in howling fjord, was AFK for a moment in wintergaurd keep, only to come back and see a dwarf hunter in a flannel and I think overalls standing before me. I nodded at him and he struck up an IC conversation and we still chat on our “buzz boxes” occasionally. Completely spontaneous, and fun as well!

    On AD, there seemed to be a core group that was running thing to be something other than Goldshire, but when that group broke apart, there didn’t seem to be much else left. Here on FM, there are so many groups and guilds on both factions, and we seen to know most of eachother, it really feels like a community. Something you WANT to be a part of.

    December 29, 2010 at 16:30

  6. Back in the old days, I remember RP was everywhere…and it wasn’t always the RP I liked. I remember far too many Half-Elven Dragons who were enslaved by Arthas. Seriously. I even logged on to an old RP channel to find this character, just to see if he had the Vial of the Sands to finally turn into the dragon he described in his RSP…

    I think people have settled into their RP circles and while there is some cross-pollination, they are comfortable in their circles.

    As for why people come to FM in the first place, I think it has to do with the successes of our Raids (which you, dear cow, are apart of). Maybe people thought FM would be less intense on Raid Progression than a number of early PVE servers, but with enough established raids to get to more content.

    Personally, I’m more than content with the way FM constantly evolves. There’s RP when you want it, randoms when you want gear and a community of excellent people who mean the world to me.

    F the old days, we still have a future on feathermoon.

    December 29, 2010 at 16:38

  7. The reason I am on a rp server is because pvp-servers are filled with annoying people, normal servers are filled with crazy people and rp-servers are just right. No but seriously, rp-servers come with extra rules (or at least they used to, they don’t anymore). Eventhough I’m not interested in active rp, I don’t want to stand around with Bananahat and Iwillstabu in my major city. Rp servers usually attract, or did back in the day when I made my choice, more mature players than pvp servers do.

    December 29, 2010 at 20:55

  8. I’ve never RPed (though I want to! still trying to find a guild–currently on Cenarion Circle US server *coughs at the cheap plug*

    Anyway..I role on those type of servers because it’s my conducive to my playing style. PVP gets too many people trying to grief you as you lvl.

    That and I do want to RP eventually.

    December 30, 2010 at 07:15

  9. I rolled on ‘The Scryers’ RP server, because I was burned out and that’s where some friends were. I had quit tyring to do progression raids, becuase I couldn’t find a guild that fit my time – so I went there to be casual. My name was Adgamorix, and while I didn’t RP, I respected the rules of the server.

    I also found (and this is a gross generalization) that the people on the RP server were the nicest group of humans that I’d played with. Unfortunately they also tended to be the worst raiders and PvPers. Note, this isn’t a bad thing (and I know there are RP servers that have great PvE and PvP groups), but as a general rule this is what I found.

    Counter to that, PvP servers have the highest ratio of asshats. If I ever decide that I want a peaceful life of retirement within WoW, I’ll definately go back to an RP server instead of doing it on my PvP server.

    December 30, 2010 at 12:54

  10. Sanderth

    I would largely break down the non-RPers I’ve seen on an RP server into three categories, those who came here to be with friends being maybe the largest I’ve experienced personally. Of course there are those there to troll; I’ve seen enough things a million times to know that the average troll as much as anything enjoys making people mad, role-players just come off as an easy and well-broadcast-ed target. They’re a nuisance to deal with, but really, if you consider the number of people who actively troll, and the actual number of people on the server, not nearly as numerous as they sound.

    I have known many people who did, in fact, come here to role-play, but just stopped role-playing. Sometimes people’s interests change, other times they get discouraged and leave it, which is always a sad thing. I personally think that there is a much, much more vast percentage of people who are indifferent and just trying to play the game than there are people who actively hate role-players. Most of them aren’t actively contributing, but not really hurting anything either, and although you’d wish they’d contribute, it’s better to do it by encouragement than wishing they’d go away. Yes, even if they write a bad story; we’ve all been there before.

    December 30, 2010 at 15:28

  11. I have to agree with Adgamorix to a certain extent. I played on Moon Guard for about a year and a half before we ended up transferring to find a raiding group – primarily because what we wanted was extremely niche (serious, adult, progression tens only raiding).

    The comparisons between an RP server and a normal server have been interesting for me. Folks on an RP server really were some of the absolute nicest people I have met in WoW. I’d say that the average skill level of many players is higher on the normal server I’m on. I do sometimes miss the friendly RP folks though. It’s so rare to hear anyone say ANYTHING in /say on my server. It’s a bit… lonely? Barren! The world doesn’t “live” the same way.

    Folks I knew on Moon Guard that didn’t RP were usually friends of friends or they stayed simply because it was so nice (and in a few cases, because they wanted their guild to have server firsts without much competition). I’m sorry you’ve been experiencing griefing on Feathermoon. Everyone should be free to play the game however they want to without harassment or censure.

    December 30, 2010 at 16:49

  12. Like the above folks have said, I came because that’s where the only person I knew was, I stayed because the people were markedly more mature in general than it seemed the WoW servers at large were. I still recommend rolling on an RP server to friends I know who are thinking of dipping a toe in but have a low tolerance for gamer kiddiez.

    As for why I don’t myself… it’s totally ridiculous but it intimidates me more than raiding does. The RP community on my server at least has hardened to an old guard that is, while not actually exclusive or bad or mean people like I’ve seen certain accuse them of (and whom I largely suspect are put out the story didn’t become immediately about them), they are very used to playing with each other and it takes more confidence in my baby skill set than I have to barge in.

    January 1, 2011 at 19:31

  13. Koiev

    My main at the moment is on Moon Guard. It is a giant RP server. I don’t RP though. the reason that i am there was actually because i was recruited for raiding in a raiding guild on moon guard. Im a transplant from a PVP server. Some of the people on feathermoon with no real RP interest could be that way as well.

    January 1, 2011 at 21:03

  14. Hinetoa

    I don’t know why rpers get griefed, doesn’t make sense to join a RP server if you dont RP. I recently started a warrior toon on a RP server disapointedly there is little rp. I like to tell stories its a big part of my culture in my country (New Zealand) – its creative and I like learning the lore and spinning stories around a shared larger story. I think theres a lot of a different kind of fun to be had.

    January 3, 2011 at 17:31

  15. Sometimes I fear that that people are just plain stupid and delight in the torture of other people – especially when it can be done anonymously on teh interwebz.

    I play on a PvP server, I like world PvP and accept that being ganked is a way of life (although corpse camping is a waste of time, thankfully that doesn’t really happen anymore). Sadly, much like the RP servers, the PvP part is now lacking and often there is much stamping of feet and huffing when you kill someone. Although being the congenial kindly old mage that I am I rarely gank, I do like getting stuck in to a good fight that has kicked off.

    Now I’m not an RP’er but I do have a toon on an RP server because my friends were there. Do I actively seek out RP to participate? No I don’t. Do I reciprocate if someone starts to RP with me? You bet I do, well to the best of my abilities anyway. Why? Because I’m on a RP server, clues in the name. On top of that like to consider myself ‘a good neighbour’ and therefore abide by the rules when I’m visiting someone elses’ home. If I wasn’t prepared to RP at all I wouldn’t have rolled a toon there.

    Like I say though, morons will always be morons and sadly Blizzard seem to have taken a much laxer stance in dealing with people like this.

    January 4, 2011 at 03:09

  16. This reminds me of the people who go to ren fests/ren faires to make fun of the people in garb, knowing that they can get away with it. It’s being spiteful for spite’s sake. Although it took them a while, the kids who used to give you a swirly in the school toilet finally made their way onto MMOs because they have nothing better to do with their lives other than grief others.

    January 4, 2011 at 20:07

  17. Tam

    I’m on an RP because although I’m too shy, self-conscious and awkward to RP much, I love seeing RP going on around me, it enriches the whole experience for me. So, yeah, I’m essentially a parasite on my RP server. I think the reason non-RPers come to RP servers is because often RP servers get a reputation for being more mature. This is certainly true of AD-EU, which is where I am. It is honestly the server with the best “feel” I’ve ever been on, and I’m not saying it doesn’t have all the usual crap that normal servers have, but trade is occasionally genuinely witty and makes me laugh. I know. Crazy.

    Unfortunately since RP servers have the reputation of being “better” people who don’t RP are more likely to role on them. Nobody thinks to themselves: “Hmmm, I’m an immature, brainless prick, I’d better not role on a good server.”

    Hence the general degeneration of RP servers. I’ve seen it on AD as well, since I first came over here. And the worst of it is: I’m part of the problem. I mean I don’t stand around on trade shouting “ANAL [recuperation]” and I’m not called LOLHEALZ but still.

    January 5, 2011 at 09:57

  18. Half of my characters are on an RPPVP realm because when I first joined WoW I had little idea what the server flags meant. It was my first forray into an MMO and the descriptions of the server types weren’t very good. Neither was there anywhere I found, as a hapless newbie, to suggest that “no really, choose your realm carefully in case there’s friction between groups of player types on the server.”

    So when I loaded up WoW for the first time and looked at the server list, I got Ravenholdt RPPVP ‘recommended’ by the game. I had no better ideas so I went with that. Simple as that.

    As I played, learned and grew as a player I gathered friends and family on the server. Now I can’t leave that server without a lot of money and upheaval to take both my own 10 characters and my friends’ various toons off the server.

    I have no problem with RPers – in fact, I quite like seeing them. I have on other servers dabbled in RP. What I do have a problem with is being told to get off the server because I’m not playing the way someone else wants me to, though that’s usually PvPers rather than RPers and is a whole other debate.

    January 5, 2011 at 11:48

    • Akiko

      Rebecca, I am a role playing member of the WoW community. Specifically, Ravenholdt-US, Horde.

      I have absolutely no qualms with your playing on Ravenholdt without actively RPing. While I myself am a role player, I was also a raider, and formerly a hardcore PvPer (Blood Elf Rogue with the Blood Guard title).

      For some time, on Ravenholdt, I did not RP as I was in semi-serious raiding guild. I spent most of my gaming time raiding or prepping for raids. Since Cataclysm, I’ve not felt the desire to push into raiding, and have settled for just enjoying myself as a role player.

      I do not mind you being there. I don’t mind you not role playing. I would mind, for instance, if you decided to grief role players or mock them. We just ask to not be harassed as we role play, pretty much, and to abide by realm rules. No nonsensical names, yelling OOC comments, etc.

      Glad to have you on Ravenholdt.

      January 13, 2011 at 09:01

  19. *vlad*

    It’s Blizzard’s fault mainly for creating so many RP servers, and as Rebecca said above, for having this ‘recommended’ prompt come up for low population servers.
    Make it one or two RP servers max, there is no need for more than that, and maybe keep the RP servers way down the list.

    it also doesn’t help that grifers who typically ruin functions such as weddings (by placing their Huntard pets on top of the bride and groom for example) are not punished when GMs are notified; rather you get some lame response that people are free to do what they want in such cases.

    January 12, 2011 at 12:18

  20. Lisanna

    Nice question. I rolled on ‘The Scryers’ despite having no intention of roleplaying at all. I did so because I made the assumption that an RP server was likely to have a more mature, less hostile and competitive demographic than either PVP or PVE servers.

    I may have no interest in RP myself, but I also have no hostility towards those who do play that way. I simply wanted a less intense, older and more educated social environment.

    January 12, 2011 at 19:29

  21. Getharn

    The main reasons I have heard from non-troll, non-RP’ers for rolling on RP servers OTHER than friends on the server are:

    1) Lower Population – Whether to escape queues on more populated servers, or a believe that RP’ers don’t raid/end game and therefore they can be the best [class]/guild on the server.

    2) RP’ers are more “mature” – While I think RP’ers type better and are more creative (in game, at least), I know first hand how petty and drama-ridden RP can become. And fast.

    January 12, 2011 at 19:46

  22. Blue Jay

    If I stopped RPing, I would switch servers. I have friends, yes, but that’s what my RealId is for. I don’t have to group with my friends to have a good gaming experience and I can and will most likely make friends on the way.

    My real life friends joined WoW. I did not recommend RP servers to them because I knew it was not their cup of tea or playing style when it came to games.

    I don’t mind quiet non-RPers, but an RP server needs to be made of mostly RPers. This means those trying RP, casual RPers, or hardcore story-tellers. There are a lot of “serious raiding” guilds that are home to a lot of trolls. I’m very sick of having them interrupt my RP and making lewd comments because I play females. If you’re not going to RP, don’t bother those who are doing what the server is designed to do.

    To those above who are on RP servers, but do not RP, thank you for being respectful. It gives me a lot of faith.

    January 12, 2011 at 20:05

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  24. YP

    I first started playing with a group of friends who don’t RP but had recently rerolled on an RP server because they believed (rightly so I think) that the community was generally more mature and respectful. A few years later when I was looking to server transfer I decided to stick with the RP servers for that reason. So that’s why I play on an RP server without ever wanting to RP.

    That being said, there are a number of reasons I love my RP server and would never leave it despite being a raider.

    While RP is rarely found out in the wild I really enjoy when it is and do my best to answer /s questions without referencing game mechanics (i.e., avoiding “look at your map,” “use wowhead,” etc.) It makes the world feel more real and more immersive particularly when it’s off the beaten track. One of my favorite things is finding RP questers in a lowbie zone (gathering, loremastering, whatever) and offering to help them while staying “within character”. I don’t have a back story but I’ve played long enough on my main that it’s easy and fun to Be her for a brief while.

    I have nothing to base it on but I think RP servers are filled with more Explorer types. I can’t count the number of times I’ve run into someone I recognize in the strangest corners of the world and I love that. The RP people I know are often off questing after odd gear or pets or even titles to fit their characters and have provided me with groups willing to run old world raids. I’ve even mastered the OOC paren typing for the rare occasion I’ve, say, run AQ40 with a true RP group.

    I also really just like names that are *names* and not puns or sentences or offcolor allusions. I find fewer on RP servers and the truly awful ones can be reported.

    RPers add a lot of richness to my game experience so it’s only right that I help maintain their experience when and where I can.

    January 12, 2011 at 20:53

  25. I RP anyway, even though I’m on a PvP server ^^” They ask me a question, I respond like Klin would 😀

    January 12, 2011 at 21:41

  26. Ishnara

    I’ll chalk it up to the status quo. Five years ago, one out of every two players were in character, so folks are more likely to follow suit. These days you can throw a stone out in front of the Orgrimmar Auction House and hit someone with a reportable name, and the most I might expect out of a flurry of buffing is a simple “ty”; most of the time I’m greeted with passive silence.

    I think there’s this general belief that RP servers are synonymous with PvE servers, given their similar rulesets, and the fact that one can simply opt-out of RP doesn’t help matters.

    But I do think that, while most players can’t find a reason to give RP a whirl on their own initiative, it can sometimes be coaxed out. Years ago I rolled up Worgtear as an experiment; a character that would be perpetually IC, so the only time I ever ((talked like this)) was with GMs or in emergencies. I did this because even though it was 2006, I wasn’t impressed with the amount of RP present on Feathermoon.

    And it kind of worked. I found that even inside dungeons – a notoriously anti-RP environment to begin with, mechanically and otherwise – even that dude that just went “lol j/k” a few minutes ago can be coaxed into saying something perfectly in-character. I was surprised by this.

    But perhaps I shouldn’t be, because even us regular roleplayers need a prompt from time to time. So this might just be naive of me, but I prefer to think of everyone as a possible roleplayer, given the right conditions.

    January 13, 2011 at 00:53

    • Ishnara

      Grats on making it on WoWInsider, by the by!

      January 13, 2011 at 00:54

    • Ishnara

      Grats on getting your post on WoWInsider, by the by!

      January 13, 2011 at 00:55

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  28. Darwi Ordrade

    Actually, the reason why the vast bulk of OOCers roll their characters on RP realms is due to pure ignorance, complicated by lack of clear signposting from Blizzard.

    The average Johnnie Newbie, eagerly launches the game for the first time, up pops the realm list… and right there, in front of his little nose is a list of realms clearly marked as ‘recommended for new players’.

    These recommended realms are the first thing Johnny Newbie (who will henceforth be refered to as JN)sees, as they are right there at the top of the list.

    Clumped in amongst the recommended realms, are servers, marked with an ‘RP’ tag, little or no explanation is given toward what this means, and JN (if he even notices the ‘RP’ bit in his eagerness to log on for the first time, simply assumes that it stands for ‘Recommended Play’. In he logs without another thought.

    I know this as fact, because I’ve talked to a lot of these OOCers – nope I’m not afraid of them, most of them are decent enough when you get them engaged in conversation – They are simply ignorant of many of the game’s concepts, and (more importantly) the plethora of acronyms that one is expected to learn when engaging in an MMORPG for the first time.

    Among the many encountered phrases like…. ‘AFK’ ‘PuG’ or ‘LF1M BRC normal 9.8k GS + achiev + MINIMUM 20k DPS unbuffed sing targ OR WE KICK!!! /W Dkofdeath 4 inv”….

    it’s very easy to get lost, and other acronyms such as ‘RP’ are baffling to new players. It’s little wonder that they turn into quivering, confused, staring troggs when confronted with the unthathomable sight of someone walking through a city at a slow pace, wearing ‘useless’ gear.. or ‘talking like they in a book’.

    Of course, the solutions to this problem are fairly obvious. So obvious, I won’t even list them here, I suspect we all know them already.

    January 13, 2011 at 07:41

  29. Carr0t

    Simply put – perceived attitude of people on RP servers.

    I’ve always shied away from RP servers. I have my tabletop/LARP ‘RP mindset’ and my ‘gaming mindset’ and they don’t match up. When I tabletop or LARP, i’m in it for the RP. When I play a computer game, i’m in it to win. I did briefly create a toon on an RP server to play with my girlfriend (who likes RPing in WoW) way back in earlyish Vanilla, but I was acutely aware that I kept accidentally breaking the roleplay experience for other people just by using the available game mechanics to ‘cheat’ from an RP perspective.

    But I did tend to find that the attitude and mindset of people on RP servers tended to be better. They were nicer people, they were more adult and mature in their interactions, they were more inclined to help each other and work together. This was an opinion that I found to be prevalent among my (non-RPing) WoW friends, such that a good number of them had their mains on RP servers (and even and a non-RP raiding guild on an RP server) simply to try and escape the endless swathes of immature idiots who populate any large enough community and are loudest, so appear to be the majority.

    January 13, 2011 at 09:56

  30. Sizuke

    Well very good read here.
    Well im one of those people im afraid and i can only tell my reason to reroll on a RP server, i migrated from a normal PVP server to a RP-PVP server a couple a months ago Ravenholdt EU and the reason is that i find the players there alot more calm and polite, i dont know how to explain it just feels more relaxed environment which suits me very well since im not exactly a youngster anymore.
    I dont RP but i fully aware of the what it stands for and i respect the server rules and players that do it and very often even tag along and play a bit and i have to say the little i have done i have enjoyed, the other reason is that there is always events going on made by players, such as world pvp events, parties, etc.
    On Ravenholdt the players seem to give a real meaning to the Horde vs Alliance theme too and as im now “retired” hardcore raiding and devoting myself fully to pvp this as been a great experience for me.
    I kinda found on this RP server a new way to enjoy the game again at a stage where i was getting feed up of the same old stuff with a new face and arrogant players.

    PS: sorry for my bad english, is not my native laguage.

    January 13, 2011 at 11:24

  31. Much more mature community than that cess-pool of humanity that was US-Laughing Skull, my original server.

    Less Xxlolarthassx names like “Turdburglar” and “Abortme” or “Internet The Explorer” running around, too.

    January 13, 2011 at 15:18

  32. Another thing you’re missing is the ease with which the internet sinks to the lowest common denominator – anonymity. If it takes time and effort to build something, but only seconds to tear it down with no effort and no real, serious, immediate or even verifiable consequences, then you can bet your cow that in a community of ~3 000 anonymous people – eventually there’ll be enough few people who will tear stuff down because they can, are upset, had a bad day, don’t like so-and-so or w/e.

    Eventually the rest of that community becomes desensitized and we all reach the lowest common denominator – except a few pockets of what you mentioned.

    Solution is transparent and public punishment, or better enforcement tools, or better and quicker reporting tools. If you grief, that should be an immediate and certain ticket off the server, no questions asked.

    January 13, 2011 at 15:27

  33. theerivs

    To make life hell for RP-ers

    February 10, 2011 at 13:26

  34. Marda

    I also rolled a character on a RP server because of the reputation of being more mature and friendly. I was sick of the old server being downright stupid and rude all the time.

    I made level one characters on a few servers to go talk in trade chat to the server, including some non RP servers, but my current server was by far the friendliest intelligent group of people I have ever run into.

    Trolling consists of one troll, who occasionally speaks in all caps and says silly things. Nothing offensive or demeaning, just silly. To the point of which, any time someone is being mean, this guy logs on and gets them to leave. He’s kind of our own pet troll. 🙂

    My guild is full of people who are mature and respectful, and if there is a disagreement it is dealt with between members, not go cry to an officer then rage quit. I can find groups in trade chat. People are helpful in groups.

    As for RPing, sadly my time in WoW is pretty limited. I love guild chat, it is very active, and that pretty much fills my quota of social chatter. I did RP at one point in my life, but it was very time intensive.

    If someone starts acting in character, I will do the same in turn for my interactions with them. I love seeing the people who have specific greetings and farewells, it is a great game enricher to me as others here have said.

    I report stupid names and griefing, but overall I just don’t get involved. It is a shame, but as long as the real people are nice, why wouldn’t I want to be on a server like that? 🙂

    February 22, 2011 at 12:05

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